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Monday, November 3, 2008

Commissioner Atkinson Responds to Mayor's Comments


Commissioner Charlie Atkinson submitted this response to Mayor Pat Ahumada's comments about today's City Commission meeting. The Mayor's comments were previously posted on BATB.

-Melissa

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Hey Pat,

I don't want P.U.B. to give back the 18 million. I just don't want the PUB rate payer to keep paying towards a project that had no light at the end of the tunnel. Why not mention that taxpayer money and ratepayer money has accounted for over 7 million dollars in consultant fees, lawyer fees, and studies. It is like the bridge fiasco. You know as well as I do that this project will not happen until maybe after 2040 if and when we run out of water.

And with the desalination plant, we may never run out of water. We need to put those 18 million dollars toward expanding our desalination plant. Thats a for sure thing. No politics, just the plain truth.

As far as the border wall, you are seriously mistaken. No one wants the wall but even El Paso, where the border coalition started, has agreed to construct the wall. They lost their lawsuit.

Stop spinning the issues. Stop being a rogue mayor who thinks he can do it all by himself.

Lastly, it wasn't until recently that it was brought up to our attention that the city charter superceded the Roberts rules of order. The city attorney or you claim has always been there for you, and knows the city charter, could of stood up for you but didn't. He never told me that it was wrong to envoke the Roberts rules of order and keep you from voting. You should vote so people know exactly how you stand. You discuss and speeak out on the issues anyway and yet you are able to tell people you dont have a position because you are unable to vote. You are able to waffle your stance and that is wrong.

"The baseball stadium is a good idea and the city would benefit" as said by Jim Goza. The problem now is that the contract was not read right and if it weren't for Mr. Sossi, who stepped in to interpret the contract for the commission, we wouldn't have caught the flaws that the contract has. Mr. Sossi stepped up and showed us the discrepancies the contract had. Jim didn't catch those discrepancies. It looks now that based on our new findings, it maybe isn't a good idea to put the ball stadium on alton gloor.

I read your comments and it is you that is blinded by your beliefs that we are against you. Its the way you present things with your rough tactics that make everyone run from you. Its kinda like all the republican candidates, to include McCain, running from Bush and telling him to stay away from endorsing their elections. If you want to work with me, be humble and sincere.

You once told me that you were the quarterback and I would have to be a blocker and that you will make us look good. Well, you never stopped to realize that I had my own goals for a better Brownsville and had great ideas myself which you were unwilling to hear. When you argued with Comm. Garza and I tried to get you all together you told me never to get you together with any one because you were not willing to change, you weren't willing to work with commissioners, and that you didn't need anyone. Those were your words and it has caused the mess you are in. I respect the position of Mayor.

You disrespect the position of a commissioner. This isn't Mexico where commissioners are not put in a higher regard. You are one vote just like me. Get over your power trip and start being humble. It is never too late. Fight the special interests and not me.

I still think you were the better choice than Ernie. Its not saying much but its something.

Commissioner Atkinson

41 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

It never ceases to amaze me that Charlie still thinks Pat was a better choice than Ernie. Pat (and the current City Commission) have absolutely humiliated this town. I don't even need to get into specifics as you are well aware of what people are saying about the conduct of the current city commission, and you specifically with regard to your drunk driving shenanigans. I speak for myself in saying that when you openly endorsed Pat for Mayor you committed political suicide, and continue to do so when you STILL say that Pat was a better choice. As well you should have, you have no business serving this City. Now, I am not here waiving flags for Ernie, but he was the better choice at the time. I voted for him, and openly state that whenever Pat's name comes up. I simply felt he was more qualified. Those who were politically involved in the early 90's know that Pat was nuts then and probably still nuts now. Because whether you will EVER admit it or not, I firmly believe that Ernie would have never conducted the meetings in the manner that Pat has tried to...and about 95% of the people that I have had this dicussion with...agree... Just my thoughts...

Monday, November 03, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is easy to complain and express your thoughts without leaving a name anon. The only thing is that it makes your comment useless and without merit.

C. Atkinson

Monday, November 03, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did you read between the lines?

"I respect the position of Mayor",

and Ahumada said that there are some commissioners interested in running for mayor, but they don't respect the position.

(spell check doesn't do grammar check)

Monday, November 03, 2008  
Blogger BobbyWC said...

So was Goza fired because he failed to give solid legal advice on the right of the mayor to vote and other matters, or because they did not like his advice on the baseball issue?

I have no idea. I question the sanity of anyone who would agree to work with this city commission.

If the city is sued over the baseball issue, and has to payout money Jim will be vindicated. But if nothing comes of it, maybe it was just time for a change.

Bobby WC

Monday, November 03, 2008  
Blogger Kurgan said...

Just a naive question for one of the many attorney's who read these blogs.

Isn't a city commissioner pointedly discussing the employment status of the City Attorney, in public, in writing, hours before the executive session to discuss his employment a bad thing?

How much will this be worth?

Monday, November 03, 2008  
Blogger Melissa Zamora said...

Kurgan,

Frankly, it's a personnel issue, and they should tread lightly when it comes to discussing Goza's employment.

Melissa

Monday, November 03, 2008  
Anonymous pat ahumada said...

Brownsville will be out of water by 2040, The desalinization plant has been scaled back tremendously from the 20.0 milliong gallons per day to 2.5 million gallons per day and that is not a sure thing, because it is contingent upon state funding.

The weir project is a good and viable project with support from Mexico and the U.S. Yes, PUB spent 6 million to get the permits needed, which required expensive enviornmental and other studies in order to get the permits. PUB already has 18 million and no one has asked for the city to put up any money, so why would anyone want to return 18 million to the federal government when we already have all the U.S. permits?

We also have letters of support from the Governor of Tamaulipas, Matamoros Mayor and I just met with Mexico's State Department and the Director Genral of CNA, who is charge of all the water in Mexico. Both liked the project and are writting letters of support for the project. Tamaulipas Governor Eugenio Hernandez Flores and Mayor Erick Silva both went with me to advocate for the weir project, which shows the support and commitment to the project.

The only concern is the fact that the U.S. committed an error on the water table reading, which indicated Matamoros would flood if the weir were built, but this was an error that was corrected and Mexico wants to make sure it was an error and not something that would actually happen. The other concern if the impact on the enviornment, which is a legitimate concern and they intend to do a study.

Brownsville has been at this 29 years and the commission expects Mexico to do all the U.S. did in 29years in eight months, or the money will be returned to Washingtone. This is foolish and short sighted. I guarantee we will have the permit, just as soon as we address Mexico's legitimate concerns.

When I went into the commission I asked all of you to submit in writing your plans for the city for the next four years, no one submitted anything. Therefore, I submitted mine and all of you made it a point to attack everything I propose, including the weir and the wall, or ordinances that help make this a better and safe city, i.e., hands on phone while driving ordinance, etc.

Yes, all the commissioners have a right to propose and I would not deny anyone that right, but all I get from you guys is criticism and not much of anything constructive. So, do not try to make it seem that I was not willing to work with you guys. I was just not willing to sell my soul to anyone and cut deals the way you guys do.

Tonight is a good example, you all failed to listen and the commission opened the door to a lawsuit from our city attorney. You all failed to listen and you may have put the city at risk with another lawsuit from the project you all first approved and then find out that what I previously stated was true about the stadium. My comments back then was that 20 percent of the proceeds pledged amounted to zero, because 20 percent of nothing is nothing. I also made it clear it was a risky investment for various reasons, which would leave us hanging and paying the debt with little risk to the investors. Back then you all disagreed and fought me on it, but now we may have some potential liability. Expensive lessons for the taxpayers.

I am not going to respond to Atkinson's childish petty statements regarding being a quarter back and making references to statements he alleges I made, because some is frivilous, others untrue and others out of context. Charlie, the bottome line is that you and the commission do not respect the office I hold. I do not care if you like me or not, just respect the office, which you all obviously do not and have repeatedly made it known by your actions. And, yes, there are those of you who already made it known you want to run for mayor, which is apparently affecting how you work with the mayor. This is not about me or anyone individual, this is about respecting the office we hold and makeing decisions based onthe merits of the issue and not personal as you all make it a point to do. Passing an ordinance to prevent me from voting, when common sense tells you that is wrong is a great example how frivilous and petty this commission has been..

Your track recrord speaks for you. I will let my track record speak for me. At the end of the four years, will see who gets re-elected.

Pat Ahumada

Monday, November 03, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mayor,

Its not about pushing blame and making a point that you warned us or you opposed this or opposed that. Give up the blame game and start listening more to what is really needed in Brownsville. Come on Mayor answer me this, what special interest have I cut deals for? I love this city and work hard to make sure fairness reigns throughout the city. Come on, list the issues that you feel that I have benefitted personally from voting on the commission. I ran for the commission because I hated the way dirty politics were played at the city. If Internal Affairs from Customs can't find any wrong doings, which by the way they are looking for me to slip up, then how can you say the stupid things that you say without backing it up. I challenge you to offer some examples or proof. If not, stop your bull.

C. Atkinson

Monday, November 03, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I remember when Atkinson put a full-page ad supporting Ahumada for mayor during the last mayoral election. My, that was a short-lived honeymoon. When is Atkinson up for election? This ad should be sufficient to remind the public of his character. A statesman he sure is NOT! He's just as bad as Ahumada. Birds of a feather flock together.

Monday, November 03, 2008  
Blogger BobbyWC said...

Kurgan, what I got out of tonight's meeting was, they all met in advance and knew the result. You do not put the firing of the city attorney on the table without a sense you have the votes. It could be interesting if Goza could prove a quorum met before the meeting and set his firing in motion

Bobby WC

Monday, November 03, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If Our Mayor and Comissioner would only dedicate this much time to City issues maybe we would accomplish something....If these are our elected leaders no wonder we have the leadership we have as department heads.. when is someone going to do something about this....The new city web-site what a JOKE like the rest of the city everything they do is Half A$$$$$$$$ look at the sports park everyone says 24 million thats only for construction what about the land and all their meetings someone should fire that director of BCIC talk about a pet project...BCIC now wont have money to fund other qualty of life projects...yea the board will say they do but really lets help our zoo it really smells their...what about our street...Mayor Im sorry Jerry Frank convinced me to vote for you but now I think you two and Charlie are all part of the same gang and should get out of our city.

Resident of District 2 maybe Ill run for office, but I would hate to be part of this group....L.T.

Monday, November 03, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

2009 positions open:
--City at large (L. Garza).
--District 3 (C. Cisneros).
--District 4 (E.Camarillo).

2011 positions open:
Mayor (P. Ahumada)
--City at Large (A. Troiani).
--District 1 (R. Longoria).
--District 2 (C. Atkinson).

Tuesday, November 04, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Commissioner Atkinson, your heart is in the right place, but you do not listen, nor do you know team work. I sit on other boards and I assure you, the professionalism and respect, even with those we do not agree with is something this commission should learn from. Even though, I may disagree with my colleagues on these other boards we respect each other and work for the common good.

I will always vote based on the merits, as compared to you guys who prefer to bully and gang up publicly to undermine anything and everything.

Examples I have given and their are numerous more. I asked that the Executive Session Meetings be tape recorded, but all of you have voted against this. Why? Because amenisia is convenient when it suits you all.

The latest is the subcontracting of Mr. Sossi. To quote Mr. Sossi, "some commissioners" asked him to look into the baseball stdium contract. This is wrong! No one commission or commissioners has the authority to hire or subcontract an attorney without the entire commission approval.

Mr. Goza or Mr. Chosey could have done the work Mr. Sossi is billing us for, which I am against paying and will request for the amount of the bill. There are commissioners who have a close relationship with Mr. Sossi and he is benefitting from these relationships at taxpayers expense.

This commission was ramroding the stadium contract inspite of what was obvious to me as noted by my objections and to many citizens and we have now been vindicated for opposing this contract.

Special interest is also when you all wanted to hire Moises Salas as the city attorney and I would not go along with it and as you stated, I need to learn how to play ball and will not go into the details of this one.

My point is that even though you have a good heart, you do not think things thru and you go along with things for all the wrong reasons. Imagine Brownsville is a good example, you went along with it, even when you privately opposed it and it is costing tax payers $850,000. We need this money to pave streets, fund the arts, public safety, balance our budget, etc.

You all made it difficult and went against funding the arts and zoo as I was proposing, but you all are eager to spend $850,000 on Imagine Brownsville. This is a glorified survey that cannot solve the problems of our city. We already know we lack the funds to pave streets, hire public safety personal, but all of you refuse to deal in reality and want to Imagine Brownsville at a cost of $850,000. I know it will be a lot of imagination in the final report, but is it worth it? This is a project that could have been done by UTB, Chamber or even in house and saved taxpayers $850,00.

When you add up this kind of decision making, it gets very costly for taxpayers who want more services and capitol improvements. Now, in comparison, there is no one project you can say that I have been pushing at the expens of breaking our city or decisons that have cost our city. Even, my PAWS project, I do it by recruiting volunteers and sponsors to fund our humanitarian task.

In my opinion the way to govern is to make the city the agenda and not personalize it. Debate the issues and vote on them based on the merits. None of you have any or much business or political experience. None of you are as engaged in the issues of PUB and the City as I am, but you all refuse to listen and consider the voice of experience and are making mistakes that can be avoided, if only you all listened.

There is nothing wrong with Rick, you and the others wanting to run for mayor, but set it aside and wait three years. Right now, we all should focus on making the city the agenda and not making irresponsible decisions to kill a project like the weir or hiring outside council to represent us on the Border Wall. This is unnecessar when TBC filed a lawsuit in Washington representing all of the border mayors and would not charge the city to represent us in the law suit, but you all opted to subcontract this legal matter to an outside attorney. Makes no sense!

Against my objections you kept the mayor from voting or debating issues, which is another example of how divisive this commisison is and has been for all the wrong reasons. This was done even when you all have a commissioner who is an attorney, but it took outside disinterested parties to point out how wrong you all are to correct the mistake after months of bickering and wanting to silence me. Now you all begrudgingly restore those rights.

Balancing the budget responsibly, as I called for and the problems with the housing program that you all did everything to prevent me from addressing in WAshington goes to show how you fail to understand the impact of your decisions and actions, which in this instance affects the low income people.

I can go on and on, but this will be my last posting. I just hope you learn to respect the office I hold. I do not care if you like me or not, I have always respected the office you hold and have acknowledged your importance on the commission.

For those who critizie us and prefer Ernie, my comments to you all is to get a life. Ernie was slaughtered and will be slaughtered again. There is no comparrison between Ernie and me. Ernie is dishonest and the biggest problem the city has ever had. Ernie cut deals at the expense of our city, which we are having to live with and is breaking the city. We see this in the public safety contracts, giving away prime city lands to the college and the Jacob Brown auditorium.
We saw how Ernie did business with his vending machines that really took advantage of his position and the city, the wreckers benefits, stealing materials from the airport and so much more. So do not even compare Ernie to me, but if you are like him, then I understand your admiration for Ernie. Ernie is self serving and disgusted me then and disgusts me now, because I believe he is a psychopath and has no consience. Ernie is no leader! Ernie, was even to cheap to even head a recall against me and was caught red handed when he sends me a petition with a threating note. ERnieis so smart that he used his son's registered stamp meeter, which allowed me to trace it back to him when he was denying all along to have been involved with the recall. Then, when caught, he shifts the blame to his son. What kind of man prefers to cast blame on his family to save his skin?

No one can say that I am dishonest or that I do not try to do what is best for our city. Unfortunately, a lot of the divisiveness at the city is fed by people like Ernie, but that is okay. Like it or not, I am not going anywhere. I can handle it and with time it will get better. I firmly believe right will prevail and the commission will be proven wrong every time they go against what is best for the wrong reasons. We saw this with the baseball stadium, the arts, efforts to save pets, mayor voting, the budget (is going to seriously haunt them).

Charlie and I may disagree, but I know he is not dishonest or that his heart is not in the right place. In my opinion Charlie just fails to understand that in order to be a good leader, you must also know when to follow. In this instance they all want to be the mayor. But, it takes more than a title to be mayor, it takes someone to be engaged on the issues as I try to be and someone who brings solutions to the table, which I do. In spite of the controversey and opposition, I have forced the issues and addressed them as best I could, resulting in a better outcome than if I had kept quiet or gone along to go along.


Pat Ahumada

Tuesday, November 04, 2008  
Blogger BobbyWC said...

Hey Sorry Charlie - okay fine - Goza messed up on this contract - you know who else did not see the problem - your buddy - Il Duce Troiani - are you still going to rely on his legal advice?

Bobby WC

Tuesday, November 04, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

LT..you should run...District 2 needs solid representation. Theire current representation by C. Atkinson is insulting to the district. Jerry Frank not only needs to keep his nose out of politics, he needs to be run out of the city, just as he was ran out of McAllen. I understand that he took a solid position in telling people to support Pat for Mayor and look where that has gotten them. I cannot even believe that the Diocese condones this sort of behavior from their priests. Priests should not be involved in politics.

Tuesday, November 04, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is easy to complain and express your thoughts without leaving a name anon. The only thing is that it makes your comment useless and without merit.

C. Atkinson

Atkinson,
What makes a comment useless and without merit is it's content. Anonomous political expression is as old as the United States. Aamerican patriots distributed anonymously written broadsheets calling for revolution against the British crown. Were these without merit? Where they useless, too? I don't think so.
The reason I post anonymous comments is the same reason they did. Because I intend to continue living in this city and I don't trust a single one of you not to take some form of retaliation should I say something you don't like. As a life long resident of Brownsville it saddens me to have come to the conclusion that most, if not all, of the politicians in this county are corrupt at one level or the other. This doesn't mean I think you all take money or favors though I think many of you do. I think corruption includes acts of retaliation against perceived enemies or even people who have just pissed you off. I think corruption includes misuse of power. It can be relatively minor, like trying to get a backstage pass at the airport or trying to use your influence to get out of a DWI arrest. Or it can be attempting to intimidate a public employee so as to get your way (something else I'm told you do). It is all wrong and it is pervasive in this city where political influence means everything. It determines who gets arrested and who goes to trial. It determines who gets a sweetheart deal and who gets cut out. It determines who gets a fair shake and who doesn't. I have no political power so I remain anonymous because, in the final analysis, Brownsville is a small town and I never know when it will matter that I angered some unprincipled politician or even one of his friends and I don't want to have to pay the price of that person's corruption so I post anonymously. Think of it as an unsigned newspaper editorial.
Mescalero

Tuesday, November 04, 2008  
Anonymous senorita said...

Well I voted for Sally Arroyo.

How ridiculous and irresponsible. It's so f-cking ridiculous, it could only be intentional. Ahumada is quite aware that you and Sossi are on the Charter Review Committee together, so why would he send you a letter like that to publish? Asking you to publish a statement defaming your fellow Committee member. The only reason for doing that would be to wreck your committee's ability to work together. Ahumada knows how much power your Committee has and how seriously the changes you propose can influence the Commission's future. Most importantly, his own political future. I suspect Ahumada is trying to destroy the Charter Review Committee by pitting Melissa against Sossi and watching the Committee crumble. Then he doesn't have to worry about any potentially dangerous revisions (such as lowering the number of signatures needed to recall the Mayor, for example) making it onto the charter review ballot. I smell sabotage and hope you don't fall for it.

Tuesday, November 04, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mescalero,

Your right on the money. (pun intended)fogot to add positions on committees for family and friends.

Tequilero

Tuesday, November 04, 2008  
Blogger Melissa Zamora said...

I suspect Ahumada is trying to destroy the Charter Review Committee by pitting Melissa against Sossi and watching the Committee crumble.

One submitted comment to this blog by the Mayor cannot "pit" me against anyone. I can formulate my own opinions/beliefs about individuals. Sossi and I, along with the rest of the committee, work very well together. We're a strong, opinionated committee that doesn't always see eye-to-eye, but we respect each others' opinions.

Then he doesn't have to worry about any potentially dangerous revisions (such as lowering the number of signatures needed to recall the Mayor, for example) making it onto the charter review ballot.

Watch the videos on Cafe Brownsville. We've already lowered the number of signatures.

I smell sabotage and hope you don't fall for it.

Not sure if that's what this is. Like I've mentioned previously, comments posted here do not not necessarily reflect my opinions. Just because they're approved, doesn't mean I support them.

Tuesday, November 04, 2008  
Anonymous Stan said...

Mecalero: Amen.

MZ: You're doing great service by hosting this discussion and others, charter revision, for instance.

Thanks you.

Mr. Atkinson: The mayor has you nailed. You will never be an acceptable civic leader until you learn how to be objective, how to think outside our own box where, apparently, everything looks like a personal attack to which you respond with bullying.

Mr. Ahumada: You've grown up since those first months when you responded in kind to the bullying mentioned above. And you are the only one I've heard from on the commission who's actually expressed a vision for the city's future beyond hoping that some fell swoop, usually from the outside as with the ball park fiasco, will magically bring prosperity to the city, or at least to the politically well-connected. You do have some amends to make for having succumbed to irrationality during those meetings, however, and I hope you do. You seem to have begun to develop that objectivity that Mr. Atkinson lacks. May it go well.

Tuesday, November 04, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Pat, you know Ernie is not the one criticizing your performance as Mayor here. I find your direct attacks at him on a Blog of all places incredibly cowardly on your part. These blogs are for open discussion and contstructive criticism. I didn't see anything on here directed from Ernie to Pat. What you sir are doing is absolutely embarressing given that you are the Mayor of this town.

Tuesday, November 04, 2008  
Anonymous senorita said...

MZ

Glad to hear it!
I never doubted you. Keep up the great work!

Tuesday, November 04, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mayor,

Read your comment again and this time read as if it were coming from me. You sound arrogant and come across like the commission is beneath you. You scold as though we are your kids. I would take a common sense humble person over someone who thinks he has more experience than everyone else. Ernie had a lot of experience but he also abused his power because he was viewed as the "experienced one." Followers like Chris Davis who need crooked politicians to survive disgusts me more than anything else when involved with politics.
You mention Imagine Brownsville. Imagine Brownsville was voted and passed under Eddie Trevino. He had his four votes. When you took over, the process was already underway. Yes, you are right. I was against it. I felt it was a waste of money. I was vocal about that. The damage was done so I had to decide whether to abandon the project like you did or get involved and make lemonade out of lemons. I'm glad I got involved because I was able to see the massive amount of people from our community who volunteered and got involved to give their views on where Brownsville should grow. All the enities involved have made an effort to formulate the needs for our city. I could of turned my back on Imagine Brownsville but I took an objective stance on it. Mayor, its not too late to get involved in it. You have a civic duty to protect taxpayer money and that is why I am there. We can't fail with Imagine Brownsville. It is a success already because hundreds of people took time to address the needs of our community. Don't be a hater. Protect the taxpayer money spent on this project and make it work. The people who voted for you demand that you protect their interests. Thats why I got involved and that is why Im trying to make it work for the betterment of Brownsville. Because it wasn't your idea you show no interest. A good leader knows when to follow. A good leader knows when to get involved and hold people accountable. As far as the baseball stadium, I'm sure we ended up doing the right thing. If the ex-mayor Eddie Trevino wants to sue us for not signing the contract like Goza said he will, then bring it on. He can say goodbye to his political future. The contract, after examined more thoroughly, would of put this city in a bind. I don't know how Mark Sossi got involved but I'm glad he did. I'm sure you think we have lots to learn but mayor, you do to. You need to learn to bring people together. You need to be humble. I don't mind you attacking when you have to but you need to start off humble at least. As far the zoo and the cultural arts, it was Carlos Cisneros and I who sat down and formulated an amount that funded the arts. And not just some of the museums, all of the museums. You just wanted to fund one or two and that was wrong. You wanted to fund the arts by everyone paying three dollars extra on their PUB bill. It was wrong to do that. That wasn't an "experienced" move on your part. I'm glad that I was able to see the light. It definitely wasn't an experience that I wanted. You have your own beliefs and i respect them but I don't agree with all of your beliefs.

And for the anon who believes that I challenge people; well I will challenge people if I think that they don't have the best interests of the city. City will always come first. I will expose people who are out for themselves. Anon, you need not to be intimidated by me. I am the person people call when they want fairness and they are not getting it. I don't retaliate for no reason. I will retaliate if someone is trying to hurt my family or innocent people that are victims of the special interests. I fight for people who can't. I did as a union president for federal officers of the DHS/Customs and I will do it for the little guy. The rich people already have lawyers and cronies who do it for them. I do it freely for the less fortunate.

Charles Atkinson

Tuesday, November 04, 2008  
Blogger BobbyWC said...

Wow, Ahumada impressed me with his last post - I think Stan said it best -

Ahumada now you need to hold pachangas and take the same message to the people - bring charts with how they are wasting money.

I am reposting just one part of what Ahumada said. Because it says a lot.

"You all made it difficult and went against funding the arts and zoo as I was proposing, but you all are eager to spend $850,000 on Imagine Brownsville. This is a glorified survey that cannot solve the problems of our city. We already know we lack the funds to pave streets, hire public safety personal, but all of you refuse to deal in reality and want to Imagine Brownsville at a cost of $850,000. I know it will be a lot of imagination in the final report, but is it worth it? This is a project that could have been done by UTB, Chamber or even in house and saved taxpayers $850,00."

Tuesday, November 04, 2008  
Blogger MsGibby said...

("We need to put those 18 million dollars toward expanding our desalination plant.")

If that 18 million dollars was appropriated for the weir project, wouldn't spending it on the desalinization plant be considered misappropriation of funds and, therefore, a crime?

Tuesday, November 04, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well these guys (Charlie and Pat) have really proven what they can't do....You know the saying "Its better to remain quite and be thought of a fool then to open your mouth and remove all doubt" You to should read throug these comments you all have made and critique your postings.....
The City finally did something right by firing the City Attorney...Mayor elaborate on how politics were involved...He was never present, showed up late, all city employees would complain about him, maybe you all should set a trend here and continue firing other director like the BCIC director who turned the Sports Park into a Pet Project more than 15 million over budget and still growing....Open your eyes Charlie aren't you a board member of BCIC what are you wating for to spend another million. Oh yea dont call the city to try to get a pot hole repaired becasue you will be talking to all kinds of secretarys who play pinball with you and my god where in the world do they find these directors do they even check for qualifications, the answers you get are as good as my 5th graders excusses....

Imagiantion brownsville was really expensive but like you said let's make lemonde but lets just not leave it on the shelf....lets figure a way to sell it or at least drink some by funding some of the proposed projects either through bonds or maybe you two can Ask Ernie for some advice since he does have a lot of experience and kind of like you mentioned Mr. Mayor with all do respect " For some it is easy to attack a person's integrity and character for political gain, particulaly when you know that if all these allegations were true, then why is Pat not in custody or arrested? I know and trust Pat and ask you to vote for my friend, who has no intrest other than making BISD the number one scholl in the nation, as recently being recognized with the Broad and CUBE awards." You really sound like a hypocrit because I dont recall Ernie being arrested, charged,in custody or even investigated becasue it is all hear-say and Charlie are you trying to sink to the Mayor's ranks you only need 2 more DWI's to go that should not be difficult just make sure Armando is still in office. This should leave you two something to comment about I dont care to read a response but I hope to see some action taken in your future commision please quit ridiculing our City and yourselves...Thanks to our voters for getting Pat L out of BISD...
LT

Tuesday, November 04, 2008  
Blogger MsGibby said...

From what I have seen at the meetings, it seems to me that the ones who should take lessons in humility are the city commissioners who are always eager to silence the mayor or eject him from the commission meetings. It seems to me that the mayor is right when he says all of you want to be mayor. The lack of humility by the commissioners is well displayed by your actions and that of your cohorts. From what I have observed the mayor brings many good ideas to the commission, has forced you to adopt some form of the ideas he has proposed and is humble. A good example is the arts, for which you seem to want to take credit, but it was the mayor who brought the need to the attention of the city commission and the citizens. You all fought him and adopted a plan, which would have never happened had he not brought this issue to the forefront to begin with. As I recall, the mayor had a permanent plan that seemed good to me, but you all opted for a short term plan that does not fully meet the needs of the arts and is full of insecurities with the board you all created to oversee the funding for the arts. I would have opted for the mayor's plan that provided funding and stability to the arts and zoo.

Although former mayor Eddie Trevino created Imagine Brownsville, it was you all who funded the project. So your justification to throw away $850,000 on a study that you did not think was a good idea does not make sense. Does this mean you prefer to go with the flow, even knowing that it is costing taxpayers enormous amounts of money and that it is not worth the money being spent? Just because many people come together to spend someone else's money (meaning taxpayers) on a survey that is purely wishful thinking does not make it right and shows how weak you are in your decision making. It also goes to show how you justify a wrong to suit your conscience. Sometimes no matter how hard you try to disguise the taste, you can't make even decent lemonade with bad ingredients.
Could it be that you are so insecure that you will do anything to undermine the mayor instead of being part of the solution?

Tuesday, November 04, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

LT,

You are not the voice of reason. Stop sipping tequila when you provide comments for this blog. Otis lost but will prevail as State Rep. The machine is in motion. He deserves the trust of the people of Brownsville. Little Eddie Lucio III will go to higher pastures and Otis deserves to represent the people. He is honest and will represent the people well. Im glad this opportunity for him has come up. Anon, you are weak. I don't even know why you post a comment. Support Otis for State Rep. He is fair and will protect the people's interest. Solomon Ortiz, Eddie Lucio Jr, and Gilbert Hinojosa have all taken from Otis. Its time to support a true voice for Brownsville. If not, I become the enemy.

Charles Atkinson
" No special Interests"

Wednesday, November 05, 2008  
Blogger PanchoLaNeta said...

Otis lost because of his own arrogance anyone who attended the meetings lately would have seen how these people sit as trustees and act like if they are some type of celebrities not to mention Pat L. I have nothing against the man and he may be a good friend to the ones he knows as well as you might be Charlie, but never forget who put you there and for what. The same way you come to people sucking ass during elections is the way you should be while you are elected not just come re-election time, if you don’t like giving citizens that type of respect then hang them up. You all have no problem approaching total strangers during the election times looking for support but once you all are there you all look down at others and that is a good way to get voted out.

Wednesday, November 05, 2008  
Blogger Stan said...

"Its time to support a true voice for Brownsville. If not, I become the enemy."

The world's a better place with bullies around, eh? A guy who not only will tell you what's right, but make threats should one disagree.

" No special Interests"?

Wouldn't being a partisan for a candidate qualify as a special interest?

Wednesday, November 05, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"He is fair and will protect the people's interest. Solomon Ortiz, Eddie Lucio Jr, and Gilbert Hinojosa have all taken from Otis. Its time to support a true voice for Brownsville. If not, I become the enemy."

So is it pay back from those wonderful people? Time to cash the chip? Scratch my back and I'll hurt yours? Qui pro quo ? Now everyone is scared! You the enemy? Please take advise and STFU.

Tequilero

Wednesday, November 05, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"He is the Mayor and they are the Comissioners
Nuestra voz, Nuestro Voto).
So Far:
The "NO" to the Baseball Stadium has gone on deaf ears."

Nuestra Voz Nuestro Voto en BISD tambien. Bye

Wednesday, November 05, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The only one wasting taxpayer money is Mayor Ahumada. We have spent 850,000 on a master plan and Pat is already stating he wont follow it because it is not his idea. The City can only get its money back from a plan if it is followed. If you just leave it on a shelf, it is just a bunch of imagining. Pat is showing that he is a poor leader. He is not willing to work with the business community and other members of the City. He wont follow the plan because it is not his idea. The Mayor should be removed from office because he lacks the skills to work across political lines and bring people together for the good of the City. All Pat likes to do is attack, attack, attack while the City crumbles. The rest of the Comission, yes, even Charlie Atkinson have been trying to work across political lines. I blame the Mayor alone for the current status of the City Commission.

Wednesday, November 05, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

For the person using my name, please stop because this is not fair. I don't mind blogging but when people start playing shenanigans, it makes me want to stop talking about issues that are important to the community. Otis Powers is a big boy and will bounce back in his own way. He doesn't need my help and I'm sure he doesn't appreciate the negative support. please refrain from using my name.

The real Charles Atkinson
District #2 Commissioner

Wednesday, November 05, 2008  
Blogger Melissa Zamora said...

Commissioner,

I encourage you to register so this does not occur in the future, or shoot me an email when you submit a comment.

Thank you,

Melissa

Wednesday, November 05, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the blogshpere has provided the vechicle for the masses to be heard. unfortunately, it also allows for personal agendas and attacks to be promoted under the veil of anonyminity. Bloggers beware. not all we read is fact nor is it written by the person we think it is. many of those who use the internet bloggs to promote their own agendas/destroy reputations use multiple usernames to manipulate the readers by offering multiple takes on their madness.

Wednesday, November 05, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Commissioner,

I encourage you to register so this does not occur in the future, or shoot me an email when you submit a comment."

Thank you,

Melissa

Mel,
Do you believe him? He probably regrets what he wrote. It came back to bite him you know where. Typical of his kind.
He wrote all that, same style, same diction. Plus, do they not know that Presas' husband is the Lucio's first compadre? Now he says, "Stop using my name". Comical, very funny.
Tequilero

Wednesday, November 05, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"negative support"?

EXPLAIN

Mescalero

Wednesday, November 05, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the blogshpere has provided the vechicle for the masses to be heard. unfortunately, it also allows for personal agendas and attacks to be promoted under the veil of anonyminity. Bloggers beware. not all we read is fact nor is it written by the person we think it is. many of those who use the internet bloggs to promote their own agendas/destroy reputations use multiple usernames to manipulate the readers by offering multiple takes on their madness.

Tequilero & Mescalero & LT

Wednesday, November 05, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

From where I sit, there are a lot ot tequileros and mescaleros. Some bloggers may be impersonators but they do a real good job at it. Don't you think, Tequilero & Mescalero & LT? Multiple personalities, same character.

Hip!

Borracho

Thursday, November 06, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I see I have my name on two posts that I didn't send (the two preceeding this one). I was about to call Atkinson to task for claiming he does not retaliate in his valient fight for the "little guy" and then saying that the opponent of my friend is my enemy, however, he is claiming that he didn't make all the posts that are over his name. Since he didn't stipulate which are his, I guess I will give him the benefit of the doubt and conclude that this time he is not contradicting himself.
Mescalero

Thursday, November 06, 2008  

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